tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post5227514750510411937..comments2024-03-28T15:24:37.140-04:00Comments on Social Security News: Is More Rehab The Answer?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-6756804631545831592013-03-13T09:16:16.871-04:002013-03-13T09:16:16.871-04:00Rehab and job training are great ideas for an econ...Rehab and job training are great ideas for an economy that has jobs. <br />If there were jobs in the USA for our citizens (i.e., not in China ...), then as able bodied people became fully employed and moving up the employment ladder, this would creating opening for the less skilled, and in turn a REAL NEED for getting the less able into the employment market. <br />It does not work the other way around with programs, preferences and make-work jobs at the bottom having any hope of floating the economy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-41873347169439880252013-03-12T12:46:25.260-04:002013-03-12T12:46:25.260-04:00denied, he's working at SGA levels...disabilit...denied, he's working at SGA levels...disability benefits are for people that CANNOT work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-25605003705782330572013-03-12T12:35:10.583-04:002013-03-12T12:35:10.583-04:00How many of you involved in SS would deny this guy...How many of you involved in SS would deny this guy an approval for SSDI, and why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-69945451679209727572013-03-12T12:22:32.608-04:002013-03-12T12:22:32.608-04:00Money "saved" by doing CDR's is mone...Money "saved" by doing CDR's is money not disbursed from the trust funds, or in the case of SSI, from general revenues. The savings do not accrue to the agency's administrative expense budget, so additional effort by FO's do not result in additional staffing as a result of the savings. It just leaves other work undone. Money appropriated by Congress targeted to CDR's is not used to hire additional staff, it is usually used for overtime to catch up backlogs, including CDR's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-17234074409778759302013-03-12T11:29:26.807-04:002013-03-12T11:29:26.807-04:00Seriously? Their poster-child is a guy walking aro...Seriously? Their poster-child is a guy walking around Walmart having seizures, that can't safely complete his shift?<br /><br />How does he get home? Sounds like an unsafe driver if he's operating a motor vehicle.<br /><br />This opinion article was clearly put in the news section by mistake.<br /><br />Did Paul Ryan's office help write it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-86609938875968185642013-03-12T10:38:12.382-04:002013-03-12T10:38:12.382-04:00I think your analogy is faulty... "SSA doesn&...I think your analogy is faulty... "SSA doesn't make it's own pencils or build its own computers" might be more apt. Also, it's a civilian agency. They're all civilians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-46160681719520551352013-03-12T09:46:12.060-04:002013-03-12T09:46:12.060-04:00CDRs generally return $9 for every $1 spent doing ...CDRs generally return $9 for every $1 spent doing them. If the agency does not want to or is no longer able to do them, farm the work out to civilians. The basic forms and medical request are basically the same as a Recon or Hearing. Then all SSA has to do is review the Medical Evidence of Record. <br /><br />Maybe SSA needs to look at farming out more work. The usual response is "we cant do that, its too much personal information." Which is the same information used to file a claim by a third party, or a recon, or Medicare, or Retirement, or get an online copy of Earnings record....<br /><br />The Army does not build its own land mines. The Air Force does not build its own planes, the Navy does not build its own ships. If civillians can be trusted with creating the weapons of war, I think they can handle getting the medical records and short form completed for a CDR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-60862462183920162502013-03-12T09:38:04.322-04:002013-03-12T09:38:04.322-04:00if the work of doing an adult CDR isn't much, ...if the work of doing an adult CDR isn't much, then I would imagine it wouldn't take ceasing too many adults to make it "worth it." Even with appeals and everything, once ceased, that's saving (what's the average disability benefit, like $1100-$1200 a month?) nearly $15k a year for every year that person is now not receiving benefits. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-7369407283610270872013-03-12T09:33:04.343-04:002013-03-12T09:33:04.343-04:00The only CDR's that ever make a difference in ...The only CDR's that ever make a difference in my experience are the SSI age 18 CDR's. A significant percentage of SSI kids attaining age 18 are ceased when they have to meet the adult rules. Regular adult CDR's rarely result in cessations--I have seen no figures, and wonder if such figures are even available. Offices often request CDR workloads from other offices to pad their work units, but there is not much to doing them, and as I said, rarely result in negative outcome to beneficiaries. The whole notion of CDR's saving SSA massive dollars is mostly a myth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-15239047732257959352013-03-12T09:04:33.286-04:002013-03-12T09:04:33.286-04:00I don't disagree, my point was just that you h...I don't disagree, my point was just that you have the polar opposites of claimants expecting never to work again and SSA expecting medical improvement. The end result is part of the reason we have the mess we have today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-2059968252955304972013-03-12T08:45:44.981-04:002013-03-12T08:45:44.981-04:00CDRs would be a better place to put the money than...CDRs would be a better place to put the money than rehab. Also give the agency some teeth for those who willingly try to cheat the system working and getting disability with real fines, real imprisonment and loss of all state or federal benefits for life due to fraud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-86977611802589655792013-03-12T08:31:32.457-04:002013-03-12T08:31:32.457-04:00Yet we continue to push CDR's and people are l...Yet we continue to push CDR's and people are labeled improved despite the fact they have no intention of ever working again as previously stated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-17298808823244815722013-03-12T07:35:01.220-04:002013-03-12T07:35:01.220-04:00adding to what was said above...
rehab won't ...adding to what was said above...<br /><br />rehab won't work for the typical beneficiary that claims pain and depression. Additionally, no amount of rehab will overcome the lack of education and lack of experience of most SSI claimant's.<br /><br />As noted above, unless "rehab" means some sort of vocational training it is useless for the typical/most disability beneficiaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-32527127944584008732013-03-12T07:10:08.560-04:002013-03-12T07:10:08.560-04:00Agreed, I see the same things daily as well. I...Agreed, I see the same things daily as well. I'm in a high SSI office so most of what I see is the disabled child or the adult claiming mental problems. Very few have ever worked in the first place so giving them a check every month no matter how small feels like hitting the lottery to them. It's a sad state of affairs but no amount of "rehab" will work there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-76775032463838783582013-03-11T23:33:37.529-04:002013-03-11T23:33:37.529-04:00For good or for ill, most (not all) of the folks I...For good or for ill, most (not all) of the folks I talk to consider themselves to be permanently disabled and have little or no intention of returning to work. If they are working at SGA levels that cause denials: "I'm just working because I have to make ends meet. I plan to quit working when I get on disability." In my experience, very few ever return to SGA level work. (Those who do, then fail to report it and end up with overpayments when SSA catches up to what they are doing). SSI children are a problem. They are determined to be disabled as children and spend their entire childhood being told that they are. At age 18, when evaluated as adults, they are shocked when they get cessation notices. 'I have always been disabled, nothing has changed. Why am I denied now"? In any case, Rehab as it is currently structured is of limited value. Something like apprenticeships, on-the-job training, re-structured job corps (for all ages) would be more likely to have a better rate of success -- In my lowly opinion. . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-4343067113143892682013-03-11T13:02:12.185-04:002013-03-11T13:02:12.185-04:00For people with "treatable" conditions, ...For people with "treatable" conditions, maybe required rehab and medical treatment should mandatory. Remove the two year wait for Medicare, require treatment and rehabilitation and get into the work force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com