tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post2479875303768466473..comments2024-03-29T11:14:10.488-04:00Comments on Social Security News: SRRT Jobs DisappearingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-61445159565300410422015-04-16T09:16:13.850-04:002015-04-16T09:16:13.850-04:00What are you people talking about ?
Are you referr...What are you people talking about ?<br />Are you referring to SSI or SSDI ?<br /><br />Even if a 48 yr old claimant with herniated L/S discs (but no surg)or other orthopedic concerns and a depressive disorder is limited to SRRT sedentary work by the ALJ and denied benefits.<br /><br />Being grossly obese and putting off much needed surgery on his back is not a disability.<br /><br />I have a sister in law who fits this description and she is only 33 years old and way too young to be on disability payments.<br /><br />She was only gainly employed for <br />ten years and she is making $700<br />a month SSI payments for her and her autistic kid.<br /><br />To make a long story short my brother got himself a job paying about $27000 a year and his <br />salary was above and beyond <br />SSA's outside income limits.<br /><br />He was crying about his wife's<br />SSI check being massively offsetted because SSI is means tested.<br /><br />He really would really have SOMETHING to cry<br />about if the SSA continued to<br />send him raw unoffsetted checks.<br /><br />THE MONEY WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED OVERPAYMENTS AND HE WOULD HAVE OWED THE SSA MONEY.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145888797767599978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-20520473472108148262015-04-15T13:15:29.606-04:002015-04-15T13:15:29.606-04:00It is interesting to see how the authors of the st...It is interesting to see how the authors of the study define "routine" and the examples they give; many of the occupations they cite are what we would deem skilled or semiskilled:<br /><br />"What are routine occupations? In the field of economics, these refer to jobs that involve a limited set of tasks. More importantly, those tasks tend to be “rule based,” in that they can be performed by following a well-defined set of instructions, and require minimal discretion.<br /> <br />For example, production occupations are a prime example of routine manual jobs: jobs that are both rule based and emphasize physical (as opposed to cerebral) tasks. As examples, factory workers who operate welding, fitting, and metal press machines fall into this category, as do forklift operators and home appliance repairers. Similarly, office and administrative support occupations are routine cognitive jobs that focus on rule based “brain” (as opposed to “brawn”) tasks. These include secretaries, bookkeeping and filing clerks, mail sorters, and bank tellers."<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-49833365672265733022015-04-15T12:49:56.312-04:002015-04-15T12:49:56.312-04:00I appreciate your candor, 10:51. I'm not advoc...I appreciate your candor, 10:51. I'm not advocating moving the goalposts. In this environment, I'm just hoping to sustain the status quo. Charles's post reiterates what those of us in disability-trenches see daily: there is a significant portion of the population that is losing opportunities either with available employment or govt assistance. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-45784083163151389692015-04-15T11:44:42.687-04:002015-04-15T11:44:42.687-04:0010:51, I am the Judge that posted above. Trust me...10:51, I am the Judge that posted above. Trust me, you are right. However, we are constrained by the dicta of SSA. They are bouncing back reversals at an exceedingly high rate. we are being monitored. I know there are no jobs, you know there are no jobs, but what can we do? If you can't get legislation to change, and I can't get the Agency to change the claimant's will continue to suffer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-85911096879496440442015-04-15T10:59:39.725-04:002015-04-15T10:59:39.725-04:00I believe the answer has to start with $$$. "...I believe the answer has to start with $$$. "Disability" is strictly an administrative concept. For anyone found disabled, there is another person with the exact same pathology and severity who is working and is not "disabled". Disability is not a platonic form which exists "out there", it is a decision we make. That is why some countries have a 3% "disabled" population and others have a 5% "disabled population. I believe the first question we need to answer in developing rules for disability it how much money we wish to spend. Once we answer that question, we can devise rules to achieve the desired outcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-53078545693309148802015-04-15T10:51:09.889-04:002015-04-15T10:51:09.889-04:00I get that, 10:38. I practice in a large Midwest r...I get that, 10:38. I practice in a large Midwest rustbelt city that was just leveled in the last recession. The typical claimant I describe above is someone I speak with daily. When I turn them away explaining that they must prove that they can't perform even a simple assembly or parking lot attendant-type job to qualify, they always exclaim that no such jobs exist near them or that no one would hire them for such a job, even if they could find it. That's just the reality and my bleeding-heart tendencies feel bad for this group of people I see who are largely out of options. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-89181420747983149012015-04-15T10:38:29.834-04:002015-04-15T10:38:29.834-04:00You can make a case for a lot of people couldn'...You can make a case for a lot of people couldn't you? Someone will always be left out. What you might consider a mild condition, the person with the condition feels it's severe. There's never going to be a true line...but what's the correct balance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-36439954277419999022015-04-15T09:38:52.574-04:002015-04-15T09:38:52.574-04:00Unfortunately, 8:56 is correct. "Significant ...Unfortunately, 8:56 is correct. "Significant numbers," as defined by SSA, is in reality, not very significant. Although SSRT jobs are disappearing, they are still "significant" so as to used to beat a disability claimant. <br /><br />Although I understand that the line has be drawn somewhere, these types of denials have no basis in the "real world." When my less than high school educated, 48 yr old claimant with herniated L/S discs (but no surg)or other orthopedic concerns and a depressive disorder is limited to SRRT sedentary work by the ALJ and denied benefits, this person has no hope of sustaining, let alone finding, such a job in today's economy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-26545223526139388382015-04-15T09:24:04.687-04:002015-04-15T09:24:04.687-04:00I'm sure you're correct. But it seems like...I'm sure you're correct. But it seems like any kind of proposed changes are always met with such hate. It's no secret that SSA's guidelines for many things are old send outdated. Some changes would be beneficial to some claimants while others wouldn't. We can just revise the parts that make it more compatible for claimants, we have overhaul everything so the system can work going forward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-54637382464655640432015-04-15T08:56:53.111-04:002015-04-15T08:56:53.111-04:00All I have to do is find what I consider to be a s...All I have to do is find what I consider to be a significant number of any job in the national economy. We are not totally out of SRRT jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-64511308103622263912015-04-15T07:11:48.254-04:002015-04-15T07:11:48.254-04:00@6:27 AM
I think you are misunderstanding Charles...@6:27 AM<br /><br />I think you are misunderstanding Charles's point in posting this article. I believe he is not arguing that the standards are too strict, but rather that the standards are not being applied as written/intended. In particular, that denials based on availability of work are not based on work that he believes is actually available.<br /><br />Given the apparently uncontested fact that SSA relies on outdated vocational reference material, and the substantial disputes about the expertise of the vocational experts the agency's adjudicators rely on, he seems to be arguing a reasonable position. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19246708.post-79066020227021961942015-04-15T06:27:00.587-04:002015-04-15T06:27:00.587-04:00I'm very curious...what should the definition ...I'm very curious...what should the definition of disability be for Social Security? You, and many others here, seem to think SSA has it all wrong did that far too few people qualify for the benefits they need. Who should and shouldn't qualify? Where do you draw the line? Aren't you always denying someone who thinks they should qualify? How much of the population on disability is acceptable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com