- What Do I Need To Get Together Before I File A Claim For Social Security Disability?
- How Do I Prepare For My Social Security Disability Hearing?
- Some Good News
- I'm On Social Security Disability Benefits. What Happens When I Hit Full Retirement Age?
- Sorry To Give You Grim News But Here It Is
- "The Breath Of The Dead"
- Don't Believe Everything You Read Online
- Despite What Some People Say, Work Isn't Getting Any Easier
- Not Now. Not Later. Not Ever
- Disability And Increasing Age
- The Death Of Children And Social Security Disability
Jun 27, 2024
Recent Posts On Frustrated Claimants Blog
House Appropriations Committee Draft Of FY 2025 Appropriations Bill
The President's proposed bill for FY 2025 contains $15.4 billion for Social Security.
This can't get passed without the agreement of the Senate and the White House. Also, nothing is likely to be passed until after the new Congress begins just after New Year's Day in 2025. The new Congress may have different opinions about this appropriations bill.
Jun 26, 2024
Res Judicata Won't Apply To Denials Based Upon Ability To Perform Work Outside The New Five Year Time Period
From Emergency Message EM-24028:
... We will not apply res judicata to bar readjudication of a previously adjudicated period when the prior final determination or decision finding the claimant not disabled is dated prior to June 22, 2024, if the prior adverse determination or decision found the individual could do:
1. PRW [Past Relevant Work] at step four of the sequential evaluation process (SEP) and the PRW cited is not PRW under the PRW rule; OR
2. Other work at step five of the SEP, work experience was material to the decision, and the individual’s work experience is different under the PRW rule.
When these criteria are met, we will not apply res judicata to deny a subsequent claim or dismiss a request for hearing on that claim. ...
OK, now what about cases pending at the Appeals Council or federal court where there were denials based upon ability to perform other "jobs" that are now considered off limits because they don't really exist any more?
Jun 25, 2024
Jun 24, 2024
A Busy Saturday For Social Security
It was a busy Saturday for Social Security. Yes, a busy Saturday!
First, Social Security has added significantly more data to the online reports available to attorneys representing claimants at the initial and reconsideration levels. I have not tried it yet but early reports I have heard indicate that it’s a work in progress. Still, this holds out the prospect of two advantages. It gives attorneys easier access to information on the status of their clients’ cases. It cuts down on the number of calls to Social Security asking about case status.
Second, Social Security issued two Emergency Messages on which jobs can be considered as alternative work a claimant can perform if he or she is unable to perform their past relevant work. In the more important of the Emergency Messages there is a list of jobs that cannot be considered absent “additional evidence” from a Vocational Expert:
| DOT Code | DOT Occupational Title | DOT Industry Designation |
| 209.587-010 | Addresser | clerical |
| 249.587-018 | Document Preparer, Microfilming | business services |
| 249.587-014 | Cutter-and-Paster, Press Clippings | business services |
| 239.687-014 | Tube Operator | clerical |
| 318.687-018 | Silver Wrapper | hotel and restaurant |
| 349.667-010 | Host/Hostess, Dance Hall | amusement and recreation |
| 349.667-014 | Host/Hostess, Head | amusement and recreation |
| 379.367-010 | Surveillance-System Monitor | government services |
| 521.687-010 | Almond Blancher, Hand | canning and preserving |
| 521-687-086 | Nut Sorter | canning and preserving |
| 726.685-010 | Magnetic-Tape Winder | recording |
| 782.687-030 | Puller-Through | glove and mitten |
| 976.385-010 | Microfilm Processor | business services |
In another Emergency Messages there’s this list of jobs that can no longer be considered at all:
| DOT Code | DOT Occupational Title | DOT Industry Designation(s) |
| 013.061-010 | AGRICULTURAL ENGINEER | professional and kindred occupations |
| 013.061-014 | AGRICULTURAL-RESEARCH ENGINEER | professional and kindred occupations |
| 013.061-018 | DESIGN-ENGINEER, AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT | professional and kindred occupations |
| 013.061-022 | TEST ENGINEER, AGRICULTURAL EQUIPMENT | professional and kindred occupations |
| 021.067-010 | ASTRONOMER | professional and kindred occupations |
| 029.067-010 | GEOGRAPHER | professional and kindred occupations |
| 029.067-014 | GEOGRAPHER, PHYSICAL | professional and kindred occupations |
| 045.061-014 | PSYCHOLOGIST, ENGINEERING | professional and kindred occupations |
| 045.107-030 | PSYCHOLOGIST, INDUSTRIAL-ORGANIZATIONAL | professional and kindred occupations |
| 052.067-014 | DIRECTOR, STATE-HISTORICAL SOCIETY | professional and kindred occupations |
| 052.067-018 | GENEALOGIST | professional and kindred occupations |
| 052.067-022 | HISTORIAN | professional and kindred occupations |
| 052.067-026 | HISTORIAN, DRAMATIC ARTS | professional and kindred occupations |
| 052.167-010 | DIRECTOR, RESEARCH | motion picture; radio and television broadcasting |
| 072.101-018 | ORAL AND MAXILLOFACIAL SURGEON | medical services |
| 072.101-034 | PROSTHODONTIST | medical services |
| 193.162-022 | AIRLINE-RADIO OPERATOR, CHIEF | air transportation; business services |
| 193.262-010 | AIRLINE-RADIO OPERATOR | air transportation; business services |
| 193.262-014 | DISPATCHER | government services |
| 193.262-022 | RADIO OFFICER | water transportation |
| 193.262-026 | RADIO STATION OPERATOR | aircraft manufacturing |
| 193.262-030 | RADIOTELEGRAPH OPERATOR | telephone and telegraph |
| 193.262-034 | RADIOTELEPHONE OPERATOR | any industry |
| 193.362-010 | PHOTORADIO OPERATOR | printing and publishing; telephone and telegraph |
| 193.362-014 | RADIO-INTELLIGENCE OPERATOR | government services |
| 193.382-010 | ELECTRONIC INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS SPECIALIST | military services |
| 203.562-010 | WIRE-TRANSFER CLERK | financial institutions |
| 235.462-010 | CENTRAL-OFFICE OPERATOR | telephone and telegraph |
| 235.562-010 | CLERK, ROUTE | telephone and telegraph |
| 235.662-018 | DIRECTORY-ASSISTANCE OPERATOR | telephone and telegraph |
| 236.562-010 | TELEGRAPHER | railroad transportation |
| 236.562-014 | TELEGRAPHER AGENT | railroad transportation |
| 237.367-034 | PAY-STATION ATTENDANT | telephone and telegraph |
| 239.382-010 | WIRE-PHOTO OPERATOR, NEWS | printing and publishing |
| 297.667-014 | MODEL | garment; retail trade; wholesale trade |
| 299.647-010 | IMPERSONATOR, CHARACTER | any industry |
| 305.281-010 | COOK | domestic service |
| 338.371-010 | EMBALMER APPRENTICE | personal service |
| 338.371-014 | EMBALMER | personal service |
| 379.384-010 | SCUBA DIVER | any industry |
| 410.161-010 | ANIMAL BREEDER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 410.161-014 | FUR FARMER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 410.161-018 | LIVESTOCK RANCHER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 410.161-022 | HOG-CONFINEMENT-SYSTEM MANAGER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 411.161-010 | CANARY BREEDER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 411.161-014 | POULTRY BREEDER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 413.161-014 | REPTILE FARMER | agriculture and agricultural service |
| 452.167-010 | FIRE WARDEN | forestry |
| 452.367-010 | FIRE LOOKOUT | forestry |
| 452.367-014 | FIRE RANGER | forestry |
| 455.367-010 | LOG GRADER | logging; sawmill and planing mill |
| 455.487-010 | LOG SCALER | logging; millwork, veneer, plywood, and structural wood members; paper and pulp; sawmill and planing mill |
| 519.684-010 | LADLE LINER | foundry; smelting and refining |
| 519.684-022 | STOPPER MAKER | blast furnace, steel work, and rolling and finishing mill |
| 579.664-010 | CLAY-STRUCTURE BUILDER AND SERVICER | glass manufacturing |
| 661.281-010 | LOFT WORKER | ship and boat manufacturing and repairing |
| 661.281-018 | PATTERNMAKER APPRENTICE, WOOD | foundry |
| 661.281-022 | PATTERNMAKER, WOOD | foundry |
| 661.380-010 | MODEL MAKER, WOOD | any industry |
| 690.682-078 | STITCHER, SPECIAL MACHINE | boot and shoe |
| 690.682-082 | STITCHER, STANDARD MACHINE | boot and shoe |
| 690.685-494 | STITCHER, TAPE-CONTROLLED MACHINE | boot and shoe |
| 693.261-018 | MODEL MAKER | aircraft-aerospace manufacturing |
| 714.281-010 | AIRCRAFT-PHOTOGRAPHIC-EQUIPMENT MECHANIC | photographic apparatus and materials |
| 714.281-014 | CAMERA REPAIRER | photographic apparatus and materials |
| 714.281-018 | MACHINIST, MOTION-PICTURE EQUIPMENT | motion picture; photographic apparatus and materials |
| 714.281-022 | PHOTOGRAPHIC EQUIPMENT TECHNICIAN | photographic apparatus and materials |
| 714.281-026 | PHOTOGRAPHIC-EQUIPMENT-MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN | photographic apparatus and materials |
| 714.281-030 | SERVICE TECHNICIAN, COMPUTERIZED-PHOTOFINISHING EQUIPMENT | photofinishing |
| 715.281-010 | WATCH REPAIRER | clocks watches, and allied products |
| 715.281-014 | WATCH REPAIRER APPRENTICE | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-010 | ASSEMBLER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-014 | ASSEMBLER, WATCH TRAIN | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-018 | BANKING PIN ADJUSTER | clocks watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-022 | BARREL ASSEMBLER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-026 | BARREL-BRIDGE ASSEMBLER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-030 | BARREL-ENDSHAKE ADJUSTER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-038 | CHRONOMETER ASSEMBLER AND ADJUSTER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-042 | CHRONOMETER-BALANCE-AND-HAIRSPRING ASSEMBLER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-054 | HAIRSPRING ASSEMBLER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-062 | HAIRSPRING VIBRATOR | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-082 | PALLET-STONE INSERTER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-086 | PALLET-STONE POSITIONER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.381-094 | WATCH ASSEMBLER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.584-014 | REPAIRER, AUTO CLOCKS | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 715.681-010 | TIMING ADJUSTER | clocks, watches, and allied products |
| 761.381-014 | JIG BUILDER | wooden container |
| 788.684-114 | THREAD LASTER | boot and shoe |
| 826.261-010 | FIELD-SERVICE ENGINEER | photographic apparatus and materials |
| 841.381-010 | PAPERHANGER | construction |
| 841.684-010 | BILLPOSTER | business services |
| 849.484-010 | BOILER RELINER, PLASTIC BLOCK | foundry |
| 850.663-010 | DREDGE OPERATOR | construction; coal, metal, and nonmetal mining and quarrying |
| 861.381-046 | TERRAZZO WORKER | construction |
| 861.381-050 | TERRAZZO-WORKER APPRENTICE | construction |
| 861.664-014 | TERRAZZO FINISHER | construction |
| 899.261-010 | DIVER | any industry |
| 899.684-010 | BONDACTOR-MACHINE OPERATOR | foundry |
| 910.362-010 | TOWER OPERATOR | railroad transportation |
| 910.363-018 | YARD ENGINEER | railroad transportation |
| 910.382-010 | CAR-RETARDER OPERATOR | railroad transportation |
| 910.583-010 | LABORER, CAR BARN | railroad transportation |
| 910.683-010 | HOSTLER | railroad transportation |
| 910.683-022 | TRANSFER-TABLE OPERATOR | railroad equipment building and repairing; railroad transportation |
| 911.663-010 | MOTORBOAT OPERATOR | any industry |
| 919.663-014 | DINKEY OPERATOR | any industry |
| 919.683-010 | DOCK HAND | air transportation |
| 919.683-026 | TRACKMOBILE OPERATOR | any industry |
| 930.683-026 | ROOF BOLTER | coal, metal, and nonmetal mining and quarrying |
| 952.362-022 | POWER-REACTOR OPERATOR | utilities |
| 960.362-010 | MOTION-PICTURE PROJECTIONIST | amusement and recreation; motion picture |
| 960.382-010 | AUDIOVISUAL TECHNICIAN | any industry |
| 961.367-010 | MODEL, PHOTOGRAPHERS' | any industry |
| 961.667-010 | MODEL, ARTISTS' | any industry |
Jun 21, 2024
Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells
Have you decided what days you're going to take off around Christmas?
Is it just me or does this seem bizarre, almost abusive? It's certainly unnecessary.
Jun 20, 2024
Field Offices Workloads
Below is an illustration from the testimony of Katherine
Zuleger of Wausau
, WI. President, Chicago Social Security Management Association, Executive Committee Member, National Council of Social Security Management Associations to the Senate Finance Committee on June 18, 2024 on Work and Social Security Disability Benefits (I can't help thinking that some of this looks like an illustration from a sex education textbook!):
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- AUX -- Auxiliary claims, such as child claims
- CDR -- Continuing Disability Review
- CO -- Central Office
- CSNO -- Centralized Special Notice Option (I don't know what that is.)
- ERPA -- Electronic Representative Payee Annual report
- GI -- I think General Information in this context
- MDW -- Modernized Development Worksheet
- MNUP -- Medicare Non-Utilization Project (to determine why an elderly person isn't using Medicare -- like maybe the person is dead.)
- PSC -- Program Service Center -- where Title II benefits are computed, among other things
- RO -- Regional Office
- RPMT -- ?
- TSC -- Teleservice Center -- where they answer most telephone calls to the 800 number
Jun 19, 2024
A One Year Sprint
Government Executive has out a piece titled Martin O’Malley is on a one-year sprint to save Social Security. The title comes from Government Executive, not O'Malley. I'm sure that O'Malley hasn't claimed that he can "save" Social Security in any time frame, much less in a year.
The primary thrust of the piece is O'Malley's call for additional budget resources for his agency. However, there's also crowing about O'Malley's accomplishments as Commissioner. O'Malley has certainly changed the tone at the agency and has some important accomplishments in his first six months as Commissioner but I'm pretty sure that the main accomplishment claimed in this piece -- improvement in 800 number answering -- isn't much of an accomplishment.
Social Security's budget resources are so thin that it cannot make any significant improvement in one area of performance without taking resources from another area of performance -- borrowing from Peter to pay Paul as the old quote goes. If the 800 number service has improved, some other function must have worsened.
Those on the inside can confirm or deny this but I think that the improvement in 800 number answering has been achieved by calling upon additional backup for the agency's Teleservice Centers (TSC's). The backup comes from the Program Service Centers (PSC's) whose primary responsibility is computing and paying benefits under Title II of the Social Security Act. This has gone on to some extent for many years. I've heard it referred to as "spiking," as in asking the PSC's to step in to handle overflow when there's a spike in call volume. It's not hard to improve 800 number phone answering if all you have to do is to shift the boundary for what's considered a "spike." Of course, the problem is that this causes degradation in the primary PSC workload of computing and paying benefits, which I have seen. Doing a better job of answering the phones is great but asking claimants who have already been approved to wait an extra month for the benefits they are owed isn't so great. Also, changing the spiking policies so that the PSC's give more help to the TSC's isn't sustainable. The payment backlogs will eventually become their own crisis.
Finding ways to make yourself look better comes naturally to a seasoned politician like O'Malley. It's not a bad thing for the agency. At the least, it gives members of Congress confidence that if they give the Social Security Administration additional operating funds that they will be well spent. There is another side to the coin, however. Some members of Congress can say "Look, it's what we've been telling you. Social Security doesn't need more operating funds. It just needs better management."
Jun 18, 2024
Senate Finance Committe Hearing Today
The Senate Finance Committee is holding a hearing at 10:00 today (June 18) on Work and Social Security Disability Benefits: Addressing Challenges and Creating Opportunities. You can watch it online. Here's the witness list:
- William R. Morton, Analyst, Income Security, Congressional Research Service
- Susan B. Wilschke, Associate Commissioner, Office of Research, Demonstration, and Employment Support, Social Security Administration
- Erin Godtland, Assistant Director, Education, Workforce, and Income Security, United States Government Accountability Office
- Katherine
Zuleger, President, Chicago Social Security Management Association Executive Committee Member, National Council of Social Security Management Association
Jun 17, 2024
Job Incidence Numbers Are Unreliable
From Job Incidence Numbers in Social Security Disability Claims: A Case Study and Analysis by Kevin Liebkemann, 44 J. Nat’l Ass’n Admin. L. Judiciary 15 (2024) .
... The case survey results suggest that the SSA’s current vocational evidence system is broken in ways that can hurt disability claimants. Some variance in VE [Vocational Expert] job incidence number testimony may be reasonable. However, survey results document that VEs frequently gave markedly different national job incidence numbers for the same job around the same time, which indicates that the VE’s methodologies employed were inconsistent and thus unreliable. Further, study of cases involving other frequently cited DOT job titles could help determine how widespread this problem is. Some courts have already taken notice of such discrepancies regarding VE testimony of job incidence for other DOT titles. ...
SSA does not currently have adequate rules or enforcement in place to protect the public from the problem documented in the study data, namely VEs giving extremely disparate job incidence numbers for the same DOT title. The study data and case review found that SSA ALJs accepted those disparate numbers. The SSA’s Office of Inspector General that is charged with searching for and reporting systemic weaknesses in SSA programs has not yet issued any investigation reports on the reliability of VE methodologies for determining job incidence numbers. ...
Jun 16, 2024
Jun 15, 2024
Jun 14, 2024
One Man Thinks That The Third Rail No Longer Exists
John Tammy has written a piece for Forbes arguing that Social Security is no longer the Third Rail of American politics because people will be working until they're 70 and then relying upon their private savings. Social Security hardly matter to anyone not already on benefits or about to be on them. He just wants taxes lowered for money coming out of retirement accounts.
Talk about being elite and out of touch! Most people don't wait until full retirement age now to start their Social Security benefits. There's no sign that's changing. Blue collar workers can rarely go on working until they're 70. Their health won't permit it. I think that Mr. Tammy hasn't yet experienced any of the ill effects of the aging process. It's coming for you too, buddy, whether you believe it or not. The odds are high that even highly motivated white collar workers don't make it until 70. Private savings? Does Mr. Tammy know anyone with an annual income below $100,000? Apart from their homes, if they're lucky enough to have them, most Americans near retirement age have only modest savings at best.
Right wing "thinkers" keep telling us that the key to all retirement problems in the U.S. is lowering the tax bills paid by wealthy Americans. It's what they're paid to write.
Jun 13, 2024
Report On OHO Operations
A statistical report from Social Security on performance at its Office of Hearings Operations:
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Jun 12, 2024
There's Enough Damn Problems Without This Crap!
A Modest Idea On Getting Help To Claimants
I wrote about the reach, and perhaps overreach, of Social Security's controls on fees for representation before the agency in 2021. I still think what I suggested at that time would be a good idea:
The Social Security Act says that fees for representing claimants must be approved by the agency. 42 U.S.C. §406(a)(1). The agency has interpreted this provision broadly. Its position is that charging a fee just to help a claimant file a claim or an appeal must be approved by the agency. As a result no one is providing these services for a fee apart from those offering contingent fee contracts for much broader representation. This leaves a large number of people to seek services that the Social Security Administration is unable to supply. Social Security should announce that that merely helping a claimant file a claim or an appeal is not the sort of representation for which fee approval is required. This would allow attorneys and H.&R. Block and whomever else to provide these services for modest fees. As an alternative, if the agency still wants to control these fees, the Social Security Act provides authority for the Commissioner to simply approve a maximum fee. ("The Commissioner of Social Security may, by rule and regulation, prescribe the maximum fees which may be charged for services performed in connection with any claim ...) The Commissioner could announce that the maximum fee to help file a claim is, let's say, $250 and the maximum fee for helping to file an appeal is $100. Those providing these services would not have to submit a fee petition. I will concede that this suggestion helps those with some money more than it helps the destitute but one would hope that even the poor could come up with the modest fees I'm talking about. It would also free up agency personnel to provide more help for poor claimants. If Social Security cannot itself provide these services to all who need them, why stand in the way of others providing these services for modest fees?
Jun 11, 2024
Interview With Commissioner
There's one thing about the interview that I can't figure out. At one point the interviewer mentions that O'Malley is the first Social Security Commissioner who has served in elective office. O'Malley corrects him saying "Second! I’ll show you the wax figure down the hall." Who was that other Social Security Commissioner who had previously served in elective office? Is the "wax figure" business just some odd figure of speech or some sort of reality?
Jun 10, 2024
SSI Resource Limits Are Brutal
From National Public Radio:
The thing that got Karen Williams into trouble was that she tried to do the responsible thing and bought a life insurance policy that would pay for her funeral. ...
Williams, who is disabled and doesn’t work, relied upon a little-known federal assistance program — Supplemental Security Income, or SSI, run by the Social Security Administration. ...
Williams, 63, thought her life insurance wouldn’t be used until after she died. She didn’t understand it had a cash value and that she could turn it in and collect $1,900. That was far less than the $10,000 in funeral expenses she bought the policy to cover when she died.
For Williams, the cash value of her policy along with the $260 she had saved in her checking account pushed her over SSI’s $2,000 limit on how much a recipient is allowed in savings and other assets. ...
That $2,000 asset limit hasn’t changed since 1989. If it had kept up over 51 years with inflation, it would be $10,000 today.
“I would have definitely went by the rules,” Williams says. “I didn’t know I was breaking them.”
The penalty was stiff: Williams was kicked off SSI, her primary source of income, and told by Social Security to pay back two years of benefits totaling $20,385. ...
“You’re telling me I owe you $20,000?” Williams remembers thinking in the Social Security office. “I can’t even pay my bills. … Where am I going to live?” ...
Ultimately, she sought out the help of Gregory Burrell, president and CEO of the Terry Funeral Home, an institution in West Philadelphia that has served Black families for generations.
Burrell let Williams turn the policy over to the funeral home.
“We see that all the time,” Burrell, a former president of the National Funeral Directors and Morticians Association, the largest group of Black funeral directors, said of the confusion that caught Williams. “Unfortunately, people don’t know any better. And they’re stressing, and these insurance policies — they’re considered assets.” ...









