If your going into Canada, don't tell them you're disabled. Border guard asked where I worked... held us for half an hour on "security check." Was told be Canadians to say, "I am retired," instead. Because of their health care system, they discriminate against the disabled and those with disabled kids. By the way, their health care system sucks if you need it!
almost w/o exception seniors I talk to from Canada have no complaints about their health care system. Canada pays about one-third less than USA pays for health care and has longer life expediencies.
You have to remember when looking at these charts that some of these countries have populations smaller than some of the cities in the US.
In December 2016, there were 8,808,736 disabled workers; 1,085,262 disabled adult children; and 259,207 disabled widow(er)s receiving disability benefits. Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for 4.7 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States.
Denmark population 5.749 million Norway population 5.258 million Netherlands population 17.08 million Finland population 5.503 million New Zealand population 4.794 million
I'm not sure what your point is...or actually what the point of the original post was. Smaller countries are less efficient in these sorts of programs given the economy of scale. That's what the data is showing. I think the implication is that our lower spending means we are paying less in social security benefits than other countries, but that's not what this data even addresses, since it is not reporting on actual benefit amounts, just spending.
As an example, in 2018, the average social security benefit in the US was $1404/month. In 2018, Denmark's equivalent was reported to be around $14,000 per year, so actually slightly lower than the US's average. https://qz.com/1436159/the-secret-to-a-happy-retirement/
The data shows Denmark is paying more than double the US pays, in comparison to GDP, and getting less in actual benefits.
Okay. My point was that Canada discriminates against the disabled. This is a disability related blog! As for the Canadian health care system...If it works SO great, why do so many Canadians come here for treatment? Maybe it works great for Toronto. However, if you are in rural Canada (which there is a lot of)...and need a defibrillator...hopefully you are near a place that Ottawa deems worthy of one. My grandfather had a heart attack while we were on a fishing trip in Saskatchewan. Iit took about 35 minutes for the "hospital" plane to get to us. There was nothing more than your standard first aid kit on board. They took us to a clinic in a town with about 1000 First Nation residents. No operating rooms, no defibrillator, no doctors. One nurse. This was the ONLY clinic within 250 KM and one of only 3 within 500 KM radius. The doctor went by plane to these 3 and two other clinics by plane and was at each one day a week. No defibrillators in the 5 clinics. Nearest one was a 3-4 hour flight away. Maybe it would have made no difference in my grandfather's case if there would have been one on the plane. The owner of the resort bought one with his own money after this... Just keep this in mind if you go to Canada. Oh, about the discrimination agaist the disabled. My dad looked into employment in Canada... they looked at my brother and asked how many more surgeries he needed. When the found out I had epilepsy, they said, "There's no point in continuing. You will NOT be allowed to move here." Even elite college professors have been denied due to their or their kids' disabilities.
lol, those tiny countries also have relatively smaller GDP, per capita income, etc. compared to the US. Our massive size (as a poster above referenced economies of scale) and great wealth make it abundantly easy to implement as or more generous social programs. We'd just rather dump a trilly plus into the war machine budget and tax cuts for the tiniest fraction of wealthiest people instead.
Yeah, Tim, and we deport people in the middle of life-saving treatment here to go back to places where we are certain they cannot get it, effectively handing them a death sentence. And only want to let in non-brown people who are ready to slide into very skilled jobs. We're so much better.
Anon 1:06. Agreed about comparing the U.S. to other individual nations. You can compare the entire EU to the U.S. and possibly China and Russia. Did not see their numbers. But I assume they are abysmal. It's kind of like in the Olympics. The only countries I compare the U.S. to our big like China and Russia.
A little surprised about Australia. I read some report that they have some of the strictest disability laws of most industrialized countries. Did know Canada had some tough laws but their disability process is a joke. Heard they have about 20-30 disability judges while the U.S. has close to 2,000. No comparison there.
I usually compare our laws to other countries once ruled by Great Britain. All are antiquated laws seem to stem somewhat from them.
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If your going into Canada, don't tell them you're disabled. Border guard asked where I worked... held us for half an hour on "security check." Was told be Canadians to say, "I am retired," instead. Because of their health care system, they discriminate against the disabled and those with disabled kids. By the way, their health care system sucks if you need it!
almost w/o exception seniors I talk to from Canada have no complaints about their health care system. Canada pays about one-third less than USA pays for health care and has longer life expediencies.
You have to remember when looking at these charts that some of these countries have populations smaller than some of the cities in the US.
In December 2016, there were 8,808,736 disabled workers; 1,085,262 disabled adult children; and 259,207 disabled widow(er)s receiving disability benefits. Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for 4.7 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States.
Denmark population 5.749 million
Norway population 5.258 million
Netherlands population 17.08 million
Finland population 5.503 million
New Zealand population 4.794 million
@11:37
I'm not sure what your point is...or actually what the point of the original post was. Smaller countries are less efficient in these sorts of programs given the economy of scale. That's what the data is showing. I think the implication is that our lower spending means we are paying less in social security benefits than other countries, but that's not what this data even addresses, since it is not reporting on actual benefit amounts, just spending.
As an example, in 2018, the average social security benefit in the US was $1404/month. In 2018, Denmark's equivalent was reported to be around $14,000 per year, so actually slightly lower than the US's average. https://qz.com/1436159/the-secret-to-a-happy-retirement/
The data shows Denmark is paying more than double the US pays, in comparison to GDP, and getting less in actual benefits.
My Canadian relatives have been pretty satisfied with their health care system
Okay. My point was that Canada discriminates against the disabled. This is a disability related blog! As for the Canadian health care system...If it works SO great, why do so many Canadians come here for treatment? Maybe it works great for Toronto. However, if you are in rural Canada (which there is a lot of)...and need a defibrillator...hopefully you are near a place that Ottawa deems worthy of one. My grandfather had a heart attack while we were on a fishing trip in Saskatchewan. Iit took about 35 minutes for the "hospital" plane to get to us. There was nothing more than your standard first aid kit on board. They took us to a clinic in a town with about 1000 First Nation residents. No operating rooms, no defibrillator, no doctors. One nurse. This was the ONLY clinic within 250 KM and one of only 3 within 500 KM radius. The doctor went by plane to these 3 and two other clinics by plane and was at each one day a week. No defibrillators in the 5 clinics. Nearest one was a 3-4 hour flight away. Maybe it would have made no difference in my grandfather's case if there would have been one on the plane. The owner of the resort bought one with his own money after this... Just keep this in mind if you go to Canada. Oh, about the discrimination agaist the disabled. My dad looked into employment in Canada... they looked at my brother and asked how many more surgeries he needed. When the found out I had epilepsy, they said, "There's no point in continuing. You will NOT be allowed to move here." Even elite college professors have been denied due to their or their kids' disabilities.
lol, those tiny countries also have relatively smaller GDP, per capita income, etc. compared to the US. Our massive size (as a poster above referenced economies of scale) and great wealth make it abundantly easy to implement as or more generous social programs. We'd just rather dump a trilly plus into the war machine budget and tax cuts for the tiniest fraction of wealthiest people instead.
Yeah, Tim, and we deport people in the middle of life-saving treatment here to go back to places where we are certain they cannot get it, effectively handing them a death sentence. And only want to let in non-brown people who are ready to slide into very skilled jobs. We're so much better.
Anon 1:06. Agreed about comparing the U.S. to other individual nations. You can compare the entire EU to the U.S. and possibly China and Russia. Did not see their numbers. But I assume they are abysmal. It's kind of like in the Olympics. The only countries I compare the U.S. to our big like China and Russia.
A little surprised about Australia. I read some report that they have some of the strictest disability laws of most industrialized countries. Did know Canada had some tough laws but their disability process is a joke. Heard they have about 20-30 disability judges while the U.S. has close to 2,000. No comparison there.
I usually compare our laws to other countries once ruled by Great Britain. All are antiquated laws seem to stem somewhat from them.
Mexico at the bottom? Do better.
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