This needs to be a more elaborate flow chart. How many of the denials that are denied at Initial>Reconsideration>ALJ Hearing>Appeals Council>Federal Court>Circuit Court>Restart at Initial>Reconsideration>ALJ Hearing...? How many "Return to work">Restart at Initial>Reconsideration>ALJ Hearing...? How many end up dying due to natural causes? Suicide? It's like these Medical Experts that have convinced world leaders to bring their economies to a standstill without considering the effects of that standstill. Sure, it might save SSA money to deny those they choose to... But at what cost? I know in my case, it clearly would have been cheaper for the Federal government to pay me then to pay for all the expensive medications, medical tests, physical therapies, occupational therapies, etc. But, SSA would probably rather give money to doctors, lawyers, drug companies, etc. than to people like me. You know, people who tried to for many years to overcome their disabilities...
I personally wish they wouldn't eliminate the reconsideration phase, as sometimes doctors are slow at processing files, and SSA is quick to act on denying the initial claim for lack of medical evidence. I filed for a reconsideration, AND got a lawyer. In 30 days, I was approved. It was all because they wouldn't wait long enough for the doctors to gather all the information and send it on. The lawyer was extremely helpful, but I also wasted a lot of money when ONE week later, they would have provided the info to them. That's just one story, however, how about a "special circumstance reconsideration" for cases like that? It was blatantly obvious I was disabled. There was no need for making me file for a reconsideration and get a lawyer.
I'm not sure what fuzzy math you're using, but last I checked, 45% is still higher than 37%. Adding the dismissals to denials doesn't affect the award rate.
Are reconsiderations being worked on during this time? Im waiting still. Filed march 5th but got a lawyer as well as 7 new documents to help. I was on it for 10 years prior but i tried to do the work thing and it didnt work. Couldn't keep a job more than a month.the lawyer told me i gave him enough to make a consideration and told me not to send anymore, lol.. i was working on more stuff to prove my case. My lawyer worked for ssa for 25 years so i just hope hes got this. But, are they working on reconsiderations during this quarantine?
"Are reconsiderations being worked on during this time? Im waiting still. Filed march 5th but got a lawyer as well as 7 new documents to help. I was on it for 10 years prior but i tried to do the work thing and it didnt work. Couldn't keep a job more than a month.the lawyer told me i gave him enough to make a consideration and told me not to send anymore, lol.. i was working on more stuff to prove my case. My lawyer worked for ssa for 25 years so i just hope hes got this. But, are they working on reconsiderations during this quarantine?"
DDS should still be working on reconsiderations.
However, if DDS decides that a claimant needs a Consultative Examination, the reconsideration will not be processed until they have Consultative Examinations again. There are no Consultative Examinations being performed right now because of the Covid 19 pandemic.
So of the cases that go to the ALJ level and an actual hearing is conducted the approval rate is 55 percent. Is there one report or chart that somewhere shows somethinkin like the following: In FY whatever X million people applied witin 4 years X of those claimants eventually got benefits and X did not. For those who got benefits the breakdown for each level was X, the breakdown for those who didn't is X -- explaining at what level the process ended for them and why.
@ 9:05 - The Annual Statistical Report on the Social Security Disability Insurance Program ( https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/di_asr/index.html ) has something like this. See Tables 60-65.
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This needs to be a more elaborate flow chart. How many of the denials that are denied at Initial>Reconsideration>ALJ Hearing>Appeals Council>Federal Court>Circuit Court>Restart at Initial>Reconsideration>ALJ Hearing...? How many "Return to work">Restart at Initial>Reconsideration>ALJ Hearing...? How many end up dying due to natural causes? Suicide? It's like these Medical Experts that have convinced world leaders to bring their economies to a standstill without considering the effects of that standstill. Sure, it might save SSA money to deny those they choose to... But at what cost? I know in my case, it clearly would have been cheaper for the Federal government to pay me then to pay for all the expensive medications, medical tests, physical therapies, occupational therapies, etc. But, SSA would probably rather give money to doctors, lawyers, drug companies, etc. than to people like me. You know, people who tried to for many years to overcome their disabilities...
And in pastels for Easter, too!
I personally wish they wouldn't eliminate the reconsideration phase, as sometimes doctors are slow at processing files, and SSA is quick to act on denying the initial claim for lack of medical evidence. I filed for a reconsideration, AND got a lawyer. In 30 days, I was approved. It was all because they wouldn't wait long enough for the doctors to gather all the information and send it on. The lawyer was extremely helpful, but I also wasted a lot of money when ONE week later, they would have provided the info to them. That's just one story, however, how about a "special circumstance reconsideration" for cases like that? It was blatantly obvious I was disabled. There was no need for making me file for a reconsideration and get a lawyer.
If you combine the ALJ denials and dismissals.....which are really denials...the DDS initial allowance rate is actually higher
Tim - that information is available in other SSA published data.
3:45PM Anonymous - Prototype is over - Reconsideraion is being restored in all states.
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I'm not sure what fuzzy math you're using, but last I checked, 45% is still higher than 37%. Adding the dismissals to denials doesn't affect the award rate.
Are reconsiderations being worked on during this time? Im waiting still. Filed march 5th but got a lawyer as well as 7 new documents to help. I was on it for 10 years prior but i tried to do the work thing and it didnt work. Couldn't keep a job more than a month.the lawyer told me i gave him enough to make a consideration and told me not to send anymore, lol.. i was working on more stuff to prove my case. My lawyer worked for ssa for 25 years so i just hope hes got this. But, are they working on reconsiderations during this quarantine?
Could you please post a link to the source? The link in the sheet may not work. Thank you.
You can get to it via this link I believe: https://www.ssa.gov/budget/FY19Files/2019CJ.pdf [chart on page 206 (pdf page 243)]
"Are reconsiderations being worked on during this time? Im waiting still. Filed march 5th but got a lawyer as well as 7 new documents to help. I was on it for 10 years prior but i tried to do the work thing and it didnt work. Couldn't keep a job more than a month.the lawyer told me i gave him enough to make a consideration and told me not to send anymore, lol.. i was working on more stuff to prove my case. My lawyer worked for ssa for 25 years so i just hope hes got this. But, are they working on reconsiderations during this quarantine?"
DDS should still be working on reconsiderations.
However, if DDS decides that a claimant needs a Consultative Examination, the reconsideration will not be processed until they have Consultative Examinations again. There are no Consultative Examinations being performed right now because of the Covid 19 pandemic.
So of the cases that go to the ALJ level and an actual hearing is conducted the approval rate is 55 percent. Is there one report or chart that somewhere shows somethinkin like the following: In FY whatever X million people applied witin 4 years X of those claimants eventually got benefits and X did not. For those who got benefits the breakdown for each level was X, the breakdown for those who didn't is X -- explaining at what level the process ended for them and why.
@ 9:05 - The Annual Statistical Report on the Social Security Disability Insurance Program ( https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/di_asr/index.html ) has something like this. See Tables 60-65.
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